| bibleboy | Date: Monday, 2012-12-10, 4:38 PM | Message # 1 |
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| 5. Mojsijeva 33,2 I reče: Gospod izide sa Sinaja, i pokaza im se sa Sira; zasja s gore Faranske, i dođe s mnoštvom tisuća svetaca, a u desnici mu zakon ognjeni za njih.
U vezi ovih pojavljivanja Boga o kojima govori gornji stih postavio bih pitanje da li Biblija na drugim mestima pojasnjava o cemu se zapravo radi kada su u pitanju lokacije Seir i Paran. Sto se tice Sinaja zna se da je Mojsije na njemu primio Zakon, medjutim, lokacije kao sto su Seir i Paran nisu dovoljno razjasnjene, mislim na to sta se na njima dogodilo u svetom i istorijskom smislu?
Pogledajmo ovaj prevod istog stiha:
Ponovljeni zakon 33:2 Reče: "Sa Sinaja dođe Gospod, u svijetlu se ukaza sa Seira narodu, zasja s gore paranske, dođe usred svetih četa anđelskih, iz desnice njegove razbuktio se plamen.
Ovako tumaci jedan musliman:
''Njegov dolazak sa Sinaja: Njegovo darovanje Tore Mojsiju
Njegovo obasjavanje sa Seira[12]: Njegovo darovanje Evandjelja Isusu
Njegov visok položaj na brdu Paran: Njegovo spuštanje Kur'ana Muhammedu. Paran je staro ime za područje Mekke u kojem je živio Ishmael, kao što se to spominje u Tori (Knjiga Postanka 21:21)
ovdje mozete da vidite nagovjestaj iz biblije o Muhammedovom osvajanju Mekkeu sa 10 000 njegovih vojnika.
dođe usred svetih četa anđelskih ovo nije prevedno kako treba
treba da stoji ovako 10 000 svetaca
English Standard Version (©2001)
He said, “The LORD came from Sinai and dawned from Seir upon us; he shone forth from Mount Paran; he came from the ten thousands of holy ones, with flaming fire at his right hand.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
He said, "The LORD came from Sinai, And dawned on them from Seir; He shone forth from Mount Paran, And He came from the midst of ten thousand holy ones; At His right hand there was flashing lightning for them.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
He said, "The LORD came from Sinai. For his people he rose from Seir [like the sun]. He appeared like sunshine from Mount Paran. He came with tens of thousands of holy ones. On his right was a raging fire for them.
King James Bible
And he said, The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand went a fiery law for them.
King James Bible
And he said, The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand went a fiery law for them.
American King James Version
And he said, The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir to them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand went a fiery law for them.
American Standard Version
And he said, Jehovah came from Sinai, And rose from Seir unto them; He shined forth from mount Paran, And he came from the ten thousands of holy ones: At his right hand was a fiery law for them.
upravo je muhammed usao u Mekku sa 10 000 svojih vojnika, i tako se ispunilo biblijsko prorocanstvo.''
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| bibleboy | Date: Tuesday, 2012-12-11, 4:55 PM | Message # 2 |
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| Планина Сеир , планинско подручје које су окупирали Едомци, проширујући дуж источне стране Арабију из југо-источног продужетка од Мртвог мора до близу Акабе, или источног огранка Црвеног мора. Првобитно је окупирана од стране Хоритеса (Постање 14:6), које су потом окупирани од стране Едомаца (Пост. 32:3; 33:14, 16). Током година додељена је потомцима Езава ( Поновљени 2:4, 22; Јосхуа 24:4, 2 Дневника 20:10, Исаија 21:11; Језекиљ . 25:8).
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| bibleboy | Date: Tuesday, 2012-12-11, 5:09 PM | Message # 3 |
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| Паран ( хебрејски : פארן) је мали Мосхав у Арабу долини на југу Израела .
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